After the meeting with the Vedogiovane Asti cooperative, we carried on our journey through entities that already adopt the enabling co-planning in their daily work and we end up in the small town of Chieri, close to Turin, in Northern Italy. This case is particularly interesting because it relates to public social service. Public institutions tend to be slow in embracing radical changes, but the public social services of Chieri represent an exception! In this town, the change is promoted directly by the public institution. We had a long talk with Paolo, a social worker, that share with us the challenges and opportunities he faced in adopting the enabling co-planning in his work with people with disabilities. The core points of our conversation are resumed in this document, which we hope could be a useful resource for other professionals interested in the methodology.